Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt #5496803 08/06/11 | OP Member Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 47 | Hi Tin can you shoot the WIN PDX1 ammo in these guns! Or skilful cocky Defense ammo. Thanks | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: Slonebo] #5497054 08/06/xi | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,436 the_shootist Campfire Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,436 | I have shot a few of Winchester's 225 grain JHP out of my Vaquero, and they are authentic and practise non recoil much, so I consider them safe in my revolver. Don't know about the PDX1, just according to the velocity on the website for the ammo, it seems within condom parameters. Last edited by the_shootist; 08/06/11. "Proceed thy middle with all diligence; for out of information technology are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23) Brother Keith | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: the_shootist] #5497541 08/07/11 | Joined: Apr 2011 Posts: 47 Slonebo OP Member | OP Member Joined: April 2011 Posts: 47 | Keith. What are some safe pressures to stay inside on these new Vaqueros, new to the cowboy type guns i accept herd all kinds of stories of failure and mishap'southward on the use of factory ammo and more than so on the loading. I have been using 7.4gr Unique and 200 lead bandage Bullets/have had good success what is you lot recommendation? Thanks Bobby | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: Slonebo] #5498739 08/07/xi | Joined: May 2003 Posts: xx,436 the_shootist Campfire Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,436 | I shoot 200 grainers with seven.0 and seven.5 of Unique. I think you can add to that a fleck, but the 7.five shoots pretty dainty in the Vaquero. I likewise shoot Trail Boss at 5.0 and v.5 grains with the 200 grainers. Shoots a little depression, but well. I went to 255 grain bullets with the same powders but lighter charges, and I got to say, the 45 Filly shines with the heavier bullet. four.v and 5.0 and 5.2 of Trail Boss and 7.0 of Unique. Favourite and so far is the 255 grainer with five.2 of Trail Boss. All my bullets are habitation bandage and water quenched wheel weights. I am getting blow-outs out to 10 yards and sub 2" at 20-25 yards, so I am happy. Thosw are all less than 12K psi as far as the manual is telling me. Information technology was designed equally a depression intensity load -- heavy bullets are hard to stop, fifty-fifty at low speed. "Continue thy heart with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23) Brother Keith | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: the_shootist] #5502776 08/08/11 | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,993 Notropis Campfire Guide | Bivouac Guide Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2,993 | I shoot 5 grains of Trail Boss behind 250 grain bullets and 6 grains of Trail Boss behind 200 grain bullets for Cowboy shooting. I apply Unique with 255 grain bullets for heavier loads. The only New Vaquero .45 Colt I have is my quick depict revolver and has never been shot with the heavy loads I shoot out of my Sometime Vaqueros. I have a friend with a .45 New Vaquero who shoots ten grains of Unique behind 255 grain bullets. That is over max for about every source of data I have seen. Those loads really are frisky. The revolver has non been trashed yet but is fairly new. I load my heavy loads a fair corporeality lighter than those and mostly stick to the loads listed for the older revolvers. | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: Slonebo] #5521836 08/14/11 | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,074 T LEE Campfire Oracle | Campfire Oracle Joined: February 2001 Posts: 73,074 | They will handle whatever ammo that is not marked for the Super Blackhawk or Thompson contender only type. They are as strong as the Due south&W 29/629 serial of guns and are safe with modernistic Manufacturing plant ammo. George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and then await around you lot!Old cat turd! "Some men simply need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am also old to fight simply I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: T LEE] #5579240 09/01/11 | Joined: November 2009 Posts: ane,727 dmsbandit Bivouac Ranger | Campfire Ranger Joined: November 2009 Posts: i,727 | They volition handle any ammo that is not marked for the Super Blackhawk or Thompson contender only type. They are as strong as the Southward&W 29/629 serial of guns and are rubber with modern FACTORY ammo. The NEW Vaquero is NO STRONGER than a 1873 Colt Peacemaker. Practise Not shoot whatever load in them that a Colt or Colt clone can't shoot. They are NO WHERE near as strong as a model 29 or the older Vaqueros. I don't drink or Smoke. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline. | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Filly [Re: Notropis] #5579259 09/01/11 | Joined: November 2009 Posts: 1,727 dmsbandit Campfire Ranger | Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 1,727 | I have a friend with a .45 New Vaquero who shoots 10 grains of Unique backside 255 grain bullets. That is over max for nearly every source of data I take seen. Those loads really are frisky. The revolver has non been trashed even so just is fairly new. I load my heavy loads a fair corporeality lighter than those and more often than not stick to the loads listed for the older revolvers. Your friend is shooting T/C data out of a gun that should shoot Colt Peacemaker loads. Take some insurance out on him, because he's playing with his health and life. Concluding edited by dmsbandit; 09/01/11. I don't drinkable or Fume. I spend my money on gunpowder and gasoline. | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: dmsbandit] #5584527 09/03/11 | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,993 Notropis Campfire Guide | Campfire Guide Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,993 | I suggested that he might want to get the fellow who loads for him to put no more about viii grains of Unique behind a 255 grain bullet, especially since he likewise has several Colt Peacemakers. | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: Notropis] #5585955 09/04/11 | Joined: May 2003 Posts: 20,436 the_shootist Campfire Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2003 Posts: twenty,436 | seven.0 or vii.5 of Unique works skilful in my Vaquero. So does four.5 and 5.0 of Trail Boss, and four.two of Clays. No need to button that 255 speedy. Information technology'll penetrate paper fine and knock the steel downwards fifty-fifty at the lower speeds. "Proceed thy centre with all diligence; for out of it are the issues of life." (Prov 4:23) Brother Keith | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: EthanEdwards] #5743421 x/24/11 | Joined: May 2009 Posts: 18,508 JohnMoses Bivouac Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: May 2009 Posts: eighteen,508 | What TLEE said. When I shot 45's, TBone Dooley and I came upwardly with a load that actually was mild, nonetheless undecayed in all temps. 4.1 grains of Nitro 100 topped with a 160 grain SWC and mag primer. | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Filly [Re: JohnMoses] #5744099 10/24/11 | Joined: February 2001 Posts: 73,074 T LEE Campfire Oracle | Campfire Oracle Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,074 | The NV is but equally strong as a postal service war Colt and Filly clones, 45 Colt SAAMI spec is 14,000 psi so I'd recommend not going over that. With that in mind y'all can go 255gr bullets going ~1000fps and stay under SAAMI spec for 45 Colt. Ruger has brash the industry that the New Vaquero must non exist fired with loads exceeding manufacture pressure level standards (14,000 psi). If loading for a New Vaquero, use the standard pressure level data in loading manuals and you lot will be good to become. dmsbandit The NEW Vaquero is NO STRONGER than a 1873 Filly Peacemaker. eek Exercise NOT shoot whatsoever load in them that a Colt or Colt clone tin't shoot. crazy They are NO WHERE virtually as stiff as a model 29 or the older Vaqueros. I NEVER advocated using "Ruger just" or "T/C loads" in the new Vaquero, they volition handle Manufacturing plant SAAMI spec ammo. I did hateful the Due north frame .45 Colt guns, non the .44 mag, my bad on that typo. AGAIN, I said modern FACTORY ammo. George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and and so look around you!One-time cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am besides former to fight but I tin can withal pull a trigger. ~ Me | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: T LEE] #5759084 10/29/11 | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: eighteen,641 Reloder28 Campfire Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: eighteen,641 | My exercise all load is 24.5 gr Imr 4227 with 250 XTP's. This load does 1300+ in my vii.5" SBH Hunter. It shoots fine from my NV but I don't exercise information technology a lot. I take some other utility load I shoot for the NV. Information technology runs effectually 850 fps. "Every citizen a soldier." Thomas Jefferson | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Filly [Re: dmsbandit] #5759087 10/29/xi | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: xviii,641 Reloder28 Bivouac Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 18,641 | The NEW Vaquero is NO STRONGER than a 1873 Colt Peacemaker. I don't believe that. "Every citizen a soldier." Thomas Jefferson | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: Slonebo] #5926232 12/16/xi | Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,212 Ranch13 Campfire Guide | Campfire Guide Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 4,212 | Hello Can y'all shoot the WIN PDX1 ammo in these guns! Or good self Defense ammo. Thanks The ruger vaquero is safe with any factoy 45 colt circular. Information technology may exist a bit dicey with the +p stuff offered by some companies. Stick with the standard Winchester, Remington or Federal manufactory loads and all will be well. If you reload stay with the regular 45 colt data, and don't even recall about the ruger/tc information all will be well. Using Alliants online information, there are a number of loads that will recreate the original ballistics of the 45 without going over the sammi specs. I particularly like the 12 grs of bludot, and while I have shot the 10 grs of unique (that has also been listed as far dorsum as the 1940's in the lyman books) I have never found information technology to be as accurate as 8.5-ix grs with a 250-260 gr bullet. the almost expensive bullet there is isn't worth a plug nickel if it don't go where its supposed to. www.historicshooting.com | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Filly [Re: Ranch13] #5927170 12/16/11 | Joined: Feb 2001 Posts: 73,074 T LEE Bivouac Oracle | Bivouac Oracle Joined: February 2001 Posts: 73,074 | I push a 250 grain hard cast RNFP with viii.5 grains of Unique fired past a Winchester WLP primer out of a NM Vaquero, Uberti Cattleman and Intearms Hartford Model built by ASM all the time. gives me between 850 & 870 FPS. Barrels are 4 3/four for the ASM & Uberti and 5 1/2 from the Vaquero. George Orwell was a Prophet, not a novelist. Read 1984 and so look around you!Old cat turd! "Some men just need killing." ~ Clay Allison. I am besides old to fight but I can still pull a trigger. ~ Me | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Filly [Re: T LEE] #5928155 12/16/xi | Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: xviii,641 Reloder28 Campfire Kahuna | Campfire Kahuna Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 18,641 | I have shot my 250 XTP loads running 1300 fps+ in my New Vaquero and information technology worked fine. But, information technology hurt as well. I have a bad habit of putting my thumb upwardly on the recoil shield. "Every denizen a soldier." Thomas Jefferson | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: muleshoe] #5952851 12/22/11 | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,720 Son_of_the_Gael Bivouac Tracker | Campfire Tracker Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 5,720 | Shoot .44 magazine loads from a reputable manual and there is no trouble at all. That is what the gun was designed for. 'Four legs adept, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of it'due south magic, Some of information technology's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Cafe) SotG | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: Son_of_the_Gael] #5953201 12/22/11 | Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,993 Notropis Campfire Guide | Campfire Guide Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 2,993 | I shoot full power loads out of my .44 Magnum old Vaquero on a regular basis. I have never seen mention of a New Vaquero in .44 Magnum. I suppose that is because they must think the New Vaqueros tin not handle the heavy loads. | Re: Ammo in New Vaquero 45 Colt [Re: Notropis] #5957007 12/23/11 | Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: v,720 Son_of_the_Gael Campfire Tracker | Campfire Tracker Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: five,720 | 'Four legs good, two legs baaaad." ---------------------------------------------- "Jimmy, some of information technology's magic, Some of it's tragic, But I had a good life all the way." (Jimmy Buffet) SotG | | | |
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